Protection and mont...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Protection and monthly payments

15 Posts
5 Users
0 Reactions
2,256 Views
(@prenticebaby)
Trusted Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 93
Topic starter  

Hi

I have a fixed sum loan agreement which is just under the 1/3 of my total debts owed and the Trust Deed Advisor has advised that the company will definately reject the trust deed. He has advised that as long as my other total debts are higher than this amount then this company will be irrelevant. Is this the case?

He is fairly confident that the other companies will be okay, but what if one or two of them also reject? What is the next stage?

Also my total debts are approximately £35,000 and a monthly payment of £300 has been proposed, is it likely the creditors can ask for this to be increased as part of the approval process?

I haven't yet agreed to anything and may look at further advice from another company, is this allowed?

Thanks

L Campbell


   
Quote
TDA (Debt Adviser)
(@tda-debt-adviser)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 13594
 

Hi prenticebaby.

I've just read back over your previous posts; this is the fixed sum loan from Santander used to purchase a car I think?

If other companies object the trust deed may fail to become protected. Often in such circumstances bankruptcy will be the outcome in this scenario, but that doesn't have to be the case.

However, if the trust deed provider you're working with know what they're doing they will know the acceptance criteria of the other creditors and can therefore be pretty confident of the response they'll receive. I appreciate that's a leap of faith from your point of view.

Your creditors will generally only ask for a payment to be increased if they believe that the detail in your "income and expenditure" statement suggests that an increase is affordable for you. Again, any decent trust deed provider knows what is and isn't acceptable levels of expenditure.

You can seek advice from as many sources as you wish. As you are clearly uncertain about a few things it might be helpful for you to do so.

Qualified Debt Adviser & Forum Administrator - Ask me anything about Trust Deeds


   
ReplyQuote
(@prenticebaby)
Trusted Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 93
Topic starter  

Thank you TDA. I am uncertain and just want to be sure this is the right thing for me to do.

I am about to miss the first payment to my credit cards and loan this month and no doubt the companies will be starting to chase me for payment. I would like to get this sorted sooner rather than later.

I will make contact with one of the experts on the sight who may be kind enough to meet with me.

L Campbell


   
ReplyQuote
Kevin Mapstone
(@kevin-mapstone)
Member Admin
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 4253
 

It'd certainly take a long time to repay your debts in full prenticebaby, so a trust deed may well be the answer. I presume there are no issues with equity/assets? And you aren't in a job that would be affected by insolvency?

Scottish Debt Solutions Expert - Ask me for help setting up a Scottish Trust Deed or Debt Arrangement Scheme plan.


   
ReplyQuote
Mark McFadyen
(@mark-mcfadyen)
Famed Member
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 4798
 

Hi prenticebaby

I'm surprised a wee bit at the comment that they would definately reject the proposal. Not in my experience.

Mark

Mark is not posting regularly in the Trust-deed.co.uk forum.


   
ReplyQuote
(@prenticebaby)
Trusted Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 93
Topic starter  

As far as I know there is no equity in my home but would be keen to have a valuation done prior to proceeding. I'm also a bit worried about the car given this is the largest sum at 13,500 which needs to be included. I work in local authority as far as I know my job will not be affected. Thanks for the replies.

L Campbell


   
ReplyQuote
Shona Maxwell
(@shona-maxwell)
Honorable Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 634
 

Hi

Yes, getting a valuation first is really important, and to get matters in writing. It would be highly unlikey for your job with the authority to be at risk by signing a Trust Deed.

Shona is not currently posting in the Trust-Deed.co.uk forum.


   
ReplyQuote
Kevin Mapstone
(@kevin-mapstone)
Member Admin
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 4253
 

As it is a car loan that you are referring to then I imagine the finance company will be looking closely at the proposals to check that the value of the car is being gathered in for the benefit of creditors. Is this why the adviser you spoke to thought that Santander would reject the proposals? Did they mention having to gather in funds in respect of the car on top of your contribution payments prenticebaby?

Scottish Debt Solutions Expert - Ask me for help setting up a Scottish Trust Deed or Debt Arrangement Scheme plan.


   
ReplyQuote
(@prenticebaby)
Trusted Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 93
Topic starter  

Hi Kevin
The advisor didn't mention any other payment towards the car. He advised that santander have a policy that it is black and white so to speak but didn't elaborate as to why they would reject.
A further payment on top of 300 isn't an option.

Thanks

L Campbell


   
ReplyQuote
TDA (Debt Adviser)
(@tda-debt-adviser)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 13594
 

How much do you think that the car is currently worth prenticebaby?

Qualified Debt Adviser & Forum Administrator - Ask me anything about Trust Deeds


   
ReplyQuote
(@prenticebaby)
Trusted Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 93
Topic starter  

Hi tda
I went onto parkers and it looks like my car is worth 7500 selling it private in poor condition as I was advised it would be valued on that basis.
Thanks

L Campbell


   
ReplyQuote
Shona Maxwell
(@shona-maxwell)
Honorable Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 634
 

Hi

If your car is required for work, then the Trustee may be happy for you to keep the car as it allows you to work, and subsequently make a monthly contribution. The car would however be valued again at the end of the Trust Deed, and a payment may be required at that time. This may be a lump sum, or your contributions could continue for a short time to raise the money - rather than pay more every month.

Shona is not currently posting in the Trust-Deed.co.uk forum.


   
ReplyQuote
Kevin Mapstone
(@kevin-mapstone)
Member Admin
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 4253
 

So the adviser told you that the car would be valued on the basis of a private sale in poor condition but didn't actually discuss with you how that value would be taken into account in the trust deed? Sounds like they are only telling you half of what you need to know - best get some clarification from them I reckon.

Scottish Debt Solutions Expert - Ask me for help setting up a Scottish Trust Deed or Debt Arrangement Scheme plan.


   
ReplyQuote
(@prenticebaby)
Trusted Member
Joined: 14 years ago
Posts: 93
Topic starter  

They did advise that if it was worth in excess of 3000 at the end then a lump sum payment would be required or the t.d could be extended, don't know how accurate this info is.

L Campbell


   
ReplyQuote
Kevin Mapstone
(@kevin-mapstone)
Member Admin
Joined: 16 years ago
Posts: 4253
 

This kind of arrangement is common, however the problem in your case is that Santander are owed £13.5k as a result of you purchasing the car. Therefore they are probably going to expect that some of the value of the car is gathered in to the trust deed.

If your total debt is around £5k then the debt to Santander is actually just over a third, so unless the proposals show a reasonable amount being paid over in respect of the car then you may well have difficulties getting a trust deed protected.

Scottish Debt Solutions Expert - Ask me for help setting up a Scottish Trust Deed or Debt Arrangement Scheme plan.


   
ReplyQuote
Share: