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(@albabarn)
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Hi all, really hoping you can help, I'm needing some advice.

In 2009 my ex and I broke up and we had a joint mortgage together. Long story short I left the property and entered into a Trust Deed as I couldn't take on the payments myself, the shortfall on the property was included.

My Trust Deed came to an end and I was discharged from it in April this year however I have recently been advised by my ex that he had to go to court recently to show no objection to the house being repossessed. It turns out he had left the property some years ago and has not yet gone bankrupt so the property hadn't been repossessed. This seems to have held things up with this.
My trustee has effectively washed their hands of me but I've spoken to the solicitors who are representing the mortgage lender who have advised they'll be sending paperwork regarding the repossession and me voluntarily surrendering the property to my trustee. Even though when I entered the trust deed in 2009 I surrendered my rights to the property.
I am worried that my trustee doesn't help me with this as I've been discharged.

I'm worried that signing this paperwork might make me liable for any shortfall or court fee's. I was told by the solicitors that it could take a few months into next year for the repossession to complete. There is a court date coming up soon however they advised I don't need to be there and that it should be the last court date. The reason I'm desperate for a repossession date to be set is that the council are now chasing me for council tax from the date I was discharged to when the house is repossessed as my ex is ignoring them and this bill is only going to grow.

I've been to Citizens Advice however they said to come back once everything has happened in case I get a bill for the shortfall and court fees(which I shouldn't be liable for) but they've put a lot of doubt in my mind about what's happening.

Any advice is appreciated.


   
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Mark McFadyen
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Hi albabarn

Do you know if your trustee has been discharged? If so he would have no legal authority to sign any forms.

If you don't sign the voluntary repossession forms, then the bank need to go down the formal route to repossess, however you won't be liable for the shortfall.

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(@albabarn)
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Hi, thank you for your quick reply.

My trustee was discharged in April. Would they forward those forms on to me then since that's where they're being sent.

Also the mortgage company didn't submit a claim form for the dividend to cover the short fall, they only submitted a claim for an unsecured loan I also had with them. Do you know if this will cause me any issues with them trying to chase me for shortfall/court fee's or any other payments? (I know you've already sort of answered this but it is something that i'm really concerned about)

Thanks again


   
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Mark McFadyen
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Hi albabarn

I'm not sure why they would send the forms to your trustee if they are aware he has been discharged.

In my experience they will not receive the signed forms back and go down the formal repossession route. They could not have submitted a claim for the shortfall previously as its unquantifiable until its repossessed and sold and will then pursue your partner for the shortfall.

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Kevin Mapstone
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Mortgage lenders can submit a claim for a shortfall even if the property has not been repossessed and sold - they would have had to have placed a value on their security first, which they can then be held to. However, in practice this rarely happens and you shouldn't read anything into the fact that they did not make a claim, albabarn.

The main thing to remember is you cannot be held liable for any shortfall. The mortgage was a pre-trust deed debt and as such you are discharged from any liability for it at the end of your trust deed. It is only their right to realise their security that remains, they have no right to collect any shortfall if their security does not cover the debt.

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(@albabarn)
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Thanks for your responses, it's made me feel a lot better.
I've received a letter from the solicitors who are dealing with the repossession of the property on behalf of the mortgage company. It is a Voluntary Possession Information Form. I'm a bit confused though as on it there is a request for Borrowers Employment Details, why would they need this?


   
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Hi albabarn.

I'd imagine its part of their efforts to figure out how to collect a shortfall, if one existed and you were responsible for paying it.

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(@albabarn)
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Ok, however as this was included in the Trust Deed should I just leave that information blank?


   
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If you're not liable for the shortfall I don't suppose that it matters much either way.

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David Tannock
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Hi albabarn,

You want to be careful about what personal information you give out especially employer details. Even although you won't be liable for the shortfall, the mortgage company will still try to pursue you for this and can try calling you at work which can make it very awkward. Your Trustee will be able to get this sort of contact stopped but I can sometimes take a little time.

When you apply for a loan, credit card, mortgage or any kind of finance, you don't think twice about providing your employer details. If your circumstances change and you start to struggle financially and not pay your debts this is when the employer details can come in handy to your creditors.

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TDA (Debt Adviser)
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My understanding of the existing debt collection rules is that they certainly cannot notify your employer (or colleagues) that they're chasing you for a debt.

That doesn't mean that taking repeated calls at work yourself might not become embarrassing though.

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