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(@naedosh)
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Hi

I have financial worries and may have to seek a protected trust deed. I am concerned as I have no equity in my own home but I do own a 50% share of my parents home with the other 50% owned by my brother. My parents both still live in the property and a life rent clause is built into the title deeds. If I go for a a protected trust deed can my creditors force a sale of my parents house as there is significant equity(more than my outstanding debts).

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Mark McFadyen
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Hi naedosh

if you sign a Trust Deed, then your share in the property would be regarded as an asset and released for your creditors.

Probably not the answer you wanted to hear.

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(@naedosh)
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Hi Mark

Really appreciate your speedy response. Assume you mean the value of my share would be included in the 'pot'?

Two supplemental questions please:-

1) Could creditors force a sale of the house even though my parents have a life rent on this house written into the title deeds also my brother would likely not want to sell?

2) Hypothetically If I don't mention this asset to the trustees - have they any way of finding this out?

I'm concerned for my parents as they do not know of our debts and I don't want them to suffer due to my problems

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Mark McFadyen
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Hi naedosh

there are a number of things creditors can do, but generally your interest in the property is at risk. It normally starts with notice of inhibition which prevents you selling transferring etc.

A trustee has a number of ways of checking property owned and can normally do a name search for all property in Scotland.

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(@naedosh)
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thanks for your helpful advice - I'll consider my options very carefully, I don't wish to do anything illegal I'm just wanting to protect my parents' interests and for them not to be thrown out of their house at their age. I guess an option is to ask my brother to buy out our share of the house now.



   
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Kevin Mapstone
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Hi naedosh,

Whilst a trustee is under an obligation to realise any significant assets, I believe he/she would find it very difficult, if not impossible, to force the sale of the property if it is under a life rent. I think you may find that the asset would be abandoned by the trustee as it is not realisable, though I would urge you to get absolute written clarification on this before entering into any arrangement.


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(@naedosh)
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thank you Kevin - I will certainly consider this carefully.



   
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Mark McFadyen
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Hi naedosh

I would certainly seek legal advice on the position as it is not quite as cut and dried as you think. If this were the case, then everyone about to enter a Trust Deed or bankruptcy could change their title deeds to include a life rent clause in an attempt to avoid losing the asset. However even allowing for this, normal insolvency rules apply and this would/could be challenged by a Trustee in a 5 year period before his appointment or longer under common law.

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Kevin Mapstone
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I agree that this is certainly not straightforward and proper legal advice is a good idea.

Certainly if someone was trying to put an asset beyond a trustee's reach by setting up a life-rent arrangement before entering into an insolvency procedure then it would surely be challenged by the trustee, and rightly so.
However, I reckon that the complexion is a little different if the property in question had been transferred into the persons name, presumably for free or a nominal amount, at the same time as the life-rent was arranged. This is obviously not an attempt by a debtor to alienate an asset and could therefore be viewed a little differently I'd have thought.
Mark is right though - very risky ground and legal advice should be sought, as well as an undertaking from any prospective trustee.


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