I have just noticed that when I Google my full name my trust deed (notice in the Edinburgh Gazette) shows up in the search results. This sucks as I was under the impression that it didn't.
Any thoughts?
Hello Big_al.
Google trawls through websites and records some pages for search results (and not others) according to an algorithm. It seems you've been unlucky, most people don't seem to have an issue with this.
The good news is that previous posters have been able to tackle this. Here's a thread from 2010 that I think will help you to change this:
https://www.trust-deed.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=657
I suspect those that operate the website chose to "noindex" the page or something similar - an instruction on the webpage code for Google not to list it in the search results for the site.
For other readers, newer trust deeds don't go on the Edinburgh Gazette website. They go on the online Register of Insolvencies instead. To view the register you have to register as a user which, I believe, means that Google will not index the pages and therefore cannot show them in search results.
Hi TDA
I didn't understand a word of that. Kind of like electronic Tipex I'm guessing!
Mark
Mark is not posting regularly in the Trust-deed.co.uk forum.
...invented by the Mother of Mike Nesmith from The Monkees as an interesting factoid. Tippex I mean, not Google!
Mark
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I emailed the gazette like a previous poster did in your link and got the following reply
"Thanks for your email, the notice is a matter of public record and remains publicly available as part of a complete record of official information which is of wider value for historical and research purposes. It is therefore not our policy to remove notices from The Gazette.
However, it is our standard policy that after a period of 4 years and 11 months from publishing the notice, the notice on our Gazettes website will be automatically blocked from being accessed via major internet search engines."
September 2010
OK, so it looks like it will continue to be indexed by the search engines for a little more than a year now.
If there's a particular reason why you'd like it to be de-indexed you might want to put that to the Edinburgh Gazette to see if they'll do it now. The fact that they're prepared to do it after a set period of time suggests that they don't consider this especially important. Obviously the original notice will continue to appear online (for historical and research purposes) but could only be found by searching the site itself.
Worth a try?
Electronic tippex 🙂 I love that!!!
I googled my fathers name 4 months ago to find a Just Giving charity page that had been set up in his memory - my brother has the same full name as my father and in the google search showed an entry from the Edinburgh Gazette showing my brother had a trust deed.
His was taken out in June 2012.
Hi
The Google search is something I have done several times since my trust deed was published. Each time I've done it there have been pages and pages of results getting down to the ones that have nothing to do with me and never have I seen the gazette notice. That is until tonight, on the second page of results. It's not really fair that it hasn't shown up before and it does now
Saabrina
Based on Saabrina's post, I googled my name again. It has never appeared before, and now it appears with my full address, the fourth listing after my LinkedIn profile.
My trust deed was August 2009. I finished on time after 3 years and was discharged after PPI in October 2013.
Does anyone have any idea how long that will appear in searches?
Apart from the fact that information "once out there stays there", is there a time limit that the AIB will show the Trust Deed in searches? Is it the same 6 years as the credit check?
I am now really perturbed. People google me to get my LinkedIn for business and I am mortified if they see this and connect it with me :-(.
Interestingly, initially the Trust Deed was recrded with the AIB with a slightly wrong spelling of my name (still did not come up in searches) and now it has been corrected - probably as a result of the discharge being processed.
Update: I have just written to the Gazette that publishes the results in the search, for clarification on a few points such as why it shows only part information (not that TD is discharged ), why it is appearing now and not in previous searches; is it appropriate and relevant use of Data published for everyone to see, when the information is available for relevant credit searches etc; when the information will be removed from their records and drop off from internet searches. In what circumstances can someone apply to have it updated or removed etc. Will let you know the outcome (if there is one!).
Hi Firewalker,
The AIB will hold information on the Register of Insolvencies for 1 year following the date of the Trustees discharge for Trust Deed's.
I'm interested to find out the Gazettes response to the questions you have asked as this question comes up from time to time on the forum so will be useful for people to know.
David is not currently posting in the Trust-Deed.co.uk forum
Hi David and other interested people 🙂
Below is the reply from the Gazette...............
From that response it indicates around 5 years for the Gazette; whereas the credit reference and defaults are 6 years. And from what you wrote, the AIB could actually be any length of time, depending on how quickly the Trustee is actually discharged. Mine is still not discharged.
Thinking wider, under the Offenders Rehabilitation Act, offenders may be hidden from searches whereas financial defaulters could appear for years even after their Trust Deed is concluded. Hmmmmmmmm.
" TSO is the official publisher of The Gazette on behalf of The National Archives. The Gazette (www.thegazette.co.uk) is a permanent public record and remains available as part of a complete record of official information which is of wider value for historical and research purposes. It is therefore not possible to remove or amend notices from The Gazette as standard practice.
It is our standard policy to remove personal insolvency notices from being accessed via major internet search engines after a period of 4 years and 11 months from publishing the notice".