Hi All
Found this forum when I was trying to look for some information on trust deeds, and thought i would share my story as well as look for some advice.
I am 29 and when I was younger (18ish!) I fell in to a lot of debt, via credit cards and loans, these debts total about ?ú35000. I buried my head in the sand for years trying to pay the minimum amount just to get by and did not want to admit that I needed help. I was to proud to speak to my friends and family.
Over the last 6 months I finally asked for help, i spoke to my bank (RBS) who put me through to ÔÇ£money matter groupÔÇØ and eventually was asked to contact Gregory Pennington a debt management \ advice company ( that i heard good things about ! )
I contacted Gregory Pennington who told me about a DMP and a trust deed , I explained to them my concerns and i wanted them to suggest the best route for me and not for their ÔÇ£commissionÔÇØ.
My concerns were:
1. Quickest way to pay debt back
2. My credit rating and how it would be affected
3. Can i ever get a mortgage? ( which i REALLY want ! )
Gregory Pennington suggested a DMP and after this was all setup i am currently paying about ?ú636 per month this would last about 5 years. I work as an IT manager and currently have a good salary so i can afford this amount (i was paying over ?ú1200 per month before the DMP! ), I have been on the DMP now for about 6 months and in this time have also been able to save some money and it feels great to have the weight lifted off my shoulders .
However Gregory Pennington have now been talking to me about changing to a trust deed, it all sounds to good to be true, instead of paying 5 years it would be 3 years and i would be debt free ? Why would they tell me this if their company is going to loose 2 years ÔÇ£DMP paymentsÔÇØ that they would normally get about ?ú70 per month of. They say i should consider this option but IÔÇÖm just so confused because i still am thinking about my same concerns above. Ideally i want to be debt free as quick as possible and then i really want a mortgage, can you even get a mortgage when on a DMP or on a trust deed ? As this is something my girlfriend and I want to look into. I know it would be best to clear my debt then think about a mortgage but we both are sick of renting and while it could go under her name would my debt cause any problems ?
I am just very unsure if i should change my DMP to a trust deed, is this normal ? Why should i do this and what are the pro's and cons?? ?
( sorry about the rant lol ! )
Thanks !!!
Hello db1980 and welcome to the Scottish Trust Deeds forum.
Gregory Pennington, which handles debt management plans, is part of the Think Money Group.
Also part of the Think Money Group is Wilson Andrews which is a Trust Deed company.
You have been charged fees to set up a debt management plan. A new set of fees will be charged to set up a Trust Deed. Don't worry about Think Money losing out on fees if you decide to change debt solution; they appear likely to earn higher fees sooner. Have a read of this previous forum thread (where it relates to the potential for "flipping") which you may find interesting:
http://www.trust-deed.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=283
RBS, who referred you to your debt management company, stand to lose out if you switch to a Protected Trust Deed.
In terms of your original concerns:
1 - It would appear that a debt management plan was not the quickest way to resolve your debt concerns. However the likely term of your DMP does not appear to be excessive.
2 - Your credit record would be seriously affected by a debt management plan, and more seriously affected by a Trust Deed.
3 - It's difficult for anyone to get a mortgage currently with a poor credit record and without a decent deposit.
The fact that you might have a poor credit record need not stand in the way of your girlfriend obtaining a mortgage.
A debt management plan will avoid a formal insolvency (which a Trust Deed is) and therefore may have a less serious impact on your credit record. Some people prefer DMP's as they would like to repay all of the debt that they have. A debt management plan offers you no legal protection. Interest and charges may continue to apply in a DMP but many creditors will choose to stop them.
A Trust Deed would clear up the debts sooner (perhaps by around 18 months based upon the information that you have provided) which may be a benefit in itself and may therefore allow your credit record to start to improve sooner. Any negative credit history stays on your credit file for six years. In a Protected Trust Deed your creditors cannot take legal action against you. Interest and charges stop.
Should you decide to switch from a debt management plan you should choose whichever firm you have reason to trust; you are not restricted to a firm to which you have been referred.
What's the best thing for you to do? That's a personal decision for you as it depends on what factors are most important to you.
The Trust Deed experts on this site may have also have a view to share with you on this subject that helps you to form your view.
I think trust deed assistant has covered all of the relevant points very well, so don't really have much to add.
I guess if you are happy in the debt management plan and the debt is being repaid within a reasonable timeframe (which 5 years is) and the interest IS frozen (it may be wise to check this directly with your creditors) then why change? A trust deed is a formal insolvency procedure and as such might be seen by potential mortgage lenders as more of a "black mark" against you. The only real benefit is that you would be out of debt a couple of years earlier, however it is not really necessary if affordable agreements are in place with creditors over a reasonable timescale.
thanks for the replies, still got to think about what is best, but think I will phone GP for a chat, and see what they suggest. Will update when I have more info. Thanks again !!