Thanks for sharing that Firewalker.

So it would seem that your entry is likely to be blocked to the search engines next month some time?

I just realised someone else had posted the same information earlier in this post. Sorry, I had not seen it.

I thought the same TDA. 5 August 2009 plus 4 years and 11 months plus a little admin time. I will do a search again in late July and August and see if it appears.

I still think it is wrong that it should appear in general searches and not a search carried out specifically in the Gazette site as with the AIB.

I have yet to come up with any historical or research relevance that would justify publishing the information which is permanently available through internet searches.

It seems that it would not meet the Data Protection Act where it also keeps the information available (through their actions) longer than is considered relevant by the Data Protection Act.

And the information is not complete / accurate. It does not say discharged.

I can see the purpose of it being available for credit references - again within the appropriate site.

I feel a sense of unjustness about this and wonder if and how it could be challenged. [:(!]

I am more than a little perturbed by this. My trust deed was signed in May 2011, discharged on 6th June and received my form 5 last week. I have done periodic checks throughout the course of my trust deed, mainly because I have a name that no one else has, makes no difference really since the address comes up in the search results as well.

I understand that this is a matter of public record, but how many of us had heard of the Edinburgh Gazette before we entered into a trust deed ..... not many I'm guessing. I've seen information on there and on the AIB site regarding people I know. Maybe they've seen the same information about me, but I would never bring it up, it's not my place to and I would like to think that anyone who saw information about me would likewise not mention it. The information was available before to people/organisations who knew how to find it. I wonder if this sudden inclusion in general search engines has anything to do with the change in trust deed notifications and that they are no longer required to be in the Gazette since last November. To be honest, although I've searched several times over the course of my TD I don't think I've searched in the last 6/7 months since the changes came about. I think I'd got to a stage of feeling safe in the knowledge that people that wouldn't know how to find it couldn't. Any ideas from the experts if the change in TD legislation last year could have effected this change in internet searches? I know for a fact that for the first 2 years + of my trust deed there was no inclusion in google searches

Google uses an algorithm to decide what online content to show, what not to show, and how far up the search results a certain page from the internet. This algorithm changes hundreds of times a year. Most changes are small and change the results little. Some are very big and make quite fundamental changes to the pages Google displays for particular searches.

If more people are finding their Edinburgh Gazette entry in the search results now (which the anecdotal evidence here compared to previous years seems to suggest) I'd think by far the most likely reason is a change at Google rather than anywhere else.

Website operators have the choice to code their pages in a way that prevents search engines from indexing them. If they're not indexed they don't appear in search results.

The purpose of the Gazette entry has always, in my understanding, been to alert creditors who might be unaware of a trust deed to come forwards to the trustee.

This purpose has now been assigned to the Register of Insolvencies. An entry from the ROI is removed a year after a trustee is discharged.

So... it appears as though keeping a historical and research record isn't important to the "powers that be" and that creditors don't stand to benefit from it being public information once a trustee has been discharged.

Who therefore benefits from keeping this information available?

Who actually thinks it important to keep this information available?

Nobody apart from the Edinburgh Gazette perhaps?

There's also a technological change that perhaps might inform a change in policy. There was no internet when this procedure started. You could go looking if this information was important to you, but you wouldn't easily get it delivered to your screen if you were merely curious or indeed looking for something else about the same person.

It's developed a ready ability to embarrass as a result of technological change. That was never the purpose.

Seems like its time for a change to me. It's not the fault of the Edinburgh Gazette that this is happening now, but they do have the ability to change it.

Thanks TDA. Well said. I don't pretent to understand the algorithms and technical side of programming that would now allow the search to pick it up.

I wrote back to the Gazette last night to clarify the impact, and to ask for clarification on any change in their policy or website that would make this available. Also to question why the information would not be complete (eg discharge). Polite e-mail explaining change, impact and asking for further understanding.

Will keep you advised of anything relevant they come back with. I believe it is unjust and inappropriate use of information within the principle of Data Protection legislation - accurate protected information kept for a relevant period of time and only used for relevant use.

As Saabrina said, who understood that it would appear in searches? I was told it appears in the gazette and people go to look there if they wish. It was unlikely to be seen in this area and so embarrassment unlikely. Now, it is out there in the www for anyone to see if they google. In my case, full name and address immediately visible after my linkedIn listing.

I think people should know when discussing the trust deed that it will appear in searches for five years at least. What is it we are advised about www? If we do not want anything to be seen online, don't do or post anything that we would not want to see decades from now! I feel really strongly about this and would like to pursue this to get it changed, if it is possible.

Hi Firewalker.

The Gazette has never been a record of the progress of trust deeds; it's just an initial advertisement that isn't then changed or updated.

Here's a very new, topical and interesting way people might be able to get a Google listing removed. The case that led to the change in Europe seems very relevant to what we're talking about here:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/26/google-removing-right-to-be-forgotten-links

And the appropriate page to submit that request to Google if you choose to give it a try:

https://support.google.com/legal/contact/lr_eudpa?product=websearch

I'd be fascinated to hear what happens if someone tries this.

Hi I've tried inputting my first and last name on google and can't see any sign of the gazette notice. Has anyone been doing the same or are you searching on something more specific?

Hi downandout

Try using, first and second name and town.

No obvious result for me come up with a Bing Search.
However, using Google.co.uk, the Gazette listing for me showing name and full address.

Thanks for the information TDA. I had a look at it and also accessed the form to be completed. Really interesting.

I have drafted an application and will send it when I can include a copy of my personal ID (for security purposes).

The reasons they will consider removing the link:

inadequate, irrelevant or no longer relevant, or excessive in relation to the purposes for which they were processed.

Thanks again TDA. That is a great help. I will keep you posted.

Hi Firewalker I gave that a try and I come up on the third page, I almost wish I had not read this thread now,. It's really uncomfortable that your address is online for anyone to see , I'm feeling really insecure now.

Googled name after reading this thread and wasn't there,however,added my middle name and there I am in glorious technicolor. Address included..quite disturbed by this,namely address ,as nature of my job could be risky to have my full address online! In fact it's worried me to the point I'm going to use link TDA gave..

hi all

I have a fairly common christian name and surname which when googled there are no references to me at all over loads of pages. However, if I include my middle name(which was used for my Trust Deed) and is also a fairly common name, with the first and surname, the very fist entry on google search is my entry in the Edinburgh Gazette. Every time.
Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in fae me!

That made my smile Rodney.

I have submitted the google form requesting that the URL link/connection is removed and I enclosed a copy of my passport for ID purposes. I have had an acknowledgement that my request is in a queue and they will get back to me if they need further information. I interpret from their wording that they are receiving requests and it is in the early stages of dealing with the Data Protection Authorities.

Methinks it might disappear automatically at the 4 years and 11 months before Google get to it.

For those who still have a time to go before the 5 years is up, it might be worth reading the article to understand the nature and justification for removal, and then use the link TDA kindly posted.
Good luck. I actually feel it is intrinsically wrong to post it the way it is posted.

Will let you know

Looks like this process at Google is now functioning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28130581

We've structured this thread into a new article that readers concerned about this issue might want to take a look at:

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