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 mrsk
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Hi there, I am new here - I was searching for someone to speak to before I do anything and I hope someone here could help or give me some advice.

When the consultant came to my home to see if I should go into a Trust Deed he worked out all my income and expenditure. At that time I had 3 months left to pay until my car was paid off. He worked out that until my car was paid off I could pay £100 per month and then it would increase by a further £260 (total £360) once my car was paid.

I said to him specifically that as it stood, I was struggling to even pay my car off - so in reality, this additional £260 actually didn't exist because we were in financial difficuilty as it was and were at times borrowing the £260 from family and friends in order to cover our car payments.

His response to me was one of: "Don't worry, when the time comes and you can't pay the additional money then just explain to them and they can readjust things according to your circumstances - that is the beauty of having a Trust Deed...

So we went ahead with everything.

I then fell pregnant and went on Maternity Leave and was not able to afford my payment of £100 - I then went back to work for a short period and left again.

Since then my husband and I have separated and I am now a singe mum of 3 children. I am on benefits (which is hard for me because I have never had to be on any benefits) and I can not afford to go to work because the childcare for my 2 little ones is too expensive.

Now the Trustee's have said that I have never stuck to my promise of the increase of my Trust Deed and that the period will have to be extended - I have tried emailing them so many times with so many times never getting a response. Then I got something back one day to say that the 2 woman I was emailing have actually left their company so that is why my emails were going unanswered...

I have become so terribly depressed and have been referred to the psychiatric team at our local hospital because I have had thoughts of taking my own life. My Trust Deed is screaming for a breakdown of my income and expenses and copies of bank statements and I can not even bring myself to complete any forms at all... I know I have to and I will BUT I have tried to explain to them what was said about increasing my payments and being on maternity leave and now on benefits but they just want my documents so that they can tell me if they are handing me back to my creditors or resigning as my Trustee's.

I really don't know what to do or what to think any longer. I just don't know what to do.

Can anyone help me in any way or even just give me some advice?

One more question I have is: Is it legal to put money into a savings account for my 3 children while I have my trust deed? My child benefit should go into an account for them because I believe that is their money and not mine.. any one know about this or if it will be taken by the Trust Deed?

Thank you so much - there is so much in this mail and I am very grateful for everyone taking the time to read it all - I hope it makes sense.

Thanks in advance for any answers or advice.


   
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Mark McFadyen
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Hi mrsk

Are you in employment. I assume from your post that you are not and receiving benefit income. On this basis there should be no contribution paid and you should provide confirmation of your income and expenditure and benefits to the Trustee ( preferably recorded delivery )

The Trustee will possibly discharge himself from the trust deed although this would have the effect of handing you back your creditors. If you have minimal/no assets then sequestration may be the better option for you.

Mark

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TDA (Debt Adviser)
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Welcome to the forum mrsk.

I'm sorry to hear of this situation and, in particular, that you've been unwell. Your health and wellbeing are by far the most important thing here and it's so important that you've reached out for medical help.

You cannot pay over money that you don't have. As has already been stated by Mark, if your solely reliant on benefit income no contribution is likely to be due (or affordable) at this time.

It's REALLY important that you write to your Trustee (perhaps personally to your trustee) to tell them about your current financial situation. I think that this will bring some relief for you once they're aware of the situation.

I'd suggest considering telling them about the medical help that you're receiving as well. Knowing that you've been experiencing these difficulties should help to ensure that some sensitivity is applied while you're struggling.

You mention that you're finding it hard to do this. If that's standing in the way perhaps you could find a friend, a member of your family or an adviser at your local CAB who could help you to put a letter together? Hopefully doing this will be a big part in lifting some of the weight from your shoulders.

The child benefit money is yours rather than your childrens. Obviously though it's paid over to help with the costs of bringing up children. That should be covered already by the "income and expenditure" used to calculate any payment due to your trust deed. As mentioned, if you only have benefit income no trust deed payment would normally be payable. You can pay it into a savings account if you wish, but that will just leave you with less money for all of your household costs which would probably cause more harm than good?

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 mrsk
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Hi Mark... Thank you so much for your reply.
I am receiving Income Support as well as Child Tax Credit, Housing Benefit and Child Benefits.

Are you saying that if I am in receipt of Income Support then I am not entitled to make a contribution?

Once I am handed back to all my creditors, who will sequestrate me?
(The only asset I have is a car which I use to get my children to school and back again, doctors and extra mural activities).

Thank you again for your reply.


   
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TDA (Debt Adviser)
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Hi again mrsk.

I just posted some further information - I think we might have been writing at the same time.

Normally if you are only receiving benefit income you'd not be in a position to pay into a trust deed. It's very likely that your trustee will take this position once they're fully aware of your circumstances.

How much is your car worth do you think?

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 mrsk
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Thank you TDA for your reply... I have been emailing them and informing them of the struggles and medical help I have been seeking - They just want my income and expenses.

A family member asked me to ask them about all the payments I missed and what they totalled and if I could make a payment so that this would all be over and done with. I am awaiting their response.

In the meanwhile I will let them have my income and expenditure as well as my bank statements and find out what they say. I have asked a friend to assist me so we will get that done asap and I am sure it will be a weight lifted off my shoulders.

Thank you again for your reply, I really appreciate it.


   
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 mrsk
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I think we were writing at the same time AGAIN 🙂

I don't think my car is worth more then about £5,000 - If even?

I am not sure how to find that out actually.. I can do that, what are you thinking?


   
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TDA (Debt Adviser)
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In trust deeds and sequestration your assets "vest" in your trustee. That means they may be required to release some value to help repay creditors (or at least to cover the costs of the arrangement).

In terms of cars there is a £3000 threshold. A car that you have a reasonable need for that is worth less than this would not have to be dealt with in this way.

If the car were worth more than that it could cause an issue if you were to go ahead with sequestration in the future. Best to know everything in advance I think.

There are quite a few resources online that will give you an indicative (and free) valuation of your vehicle.

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David Tannock
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Hi mrsk,

I'm sorry to read of the difficulties you have experienced since entering into the Trust Deed.

Once your Trustee is in receipt of your income and expenditure and your bank statements they will be in a position to make a decision on your case.

As others have said if your income is made up of benefits then you should not be asked to make a payment to your Trust Deed.

I'd be cautious about paying off all of your arrears to try and get the Trust Deed back on track with assistance from a family member. Based on your circumstances if your Trustee discharges your Trust Deed and provides you will all of your debts back then under a Sequestration you would not be required to make any payments.

With regards to your motor vehicle, any vehicle worth more than £3,000 is looked upon as an asset. Often in my experience people over value their vehicle. Pop onto the internet and have a look at parkers or wisebuyers to establish the value of your vehicle.

Try to remain positive! No one can force you to make a payment and no one is going to stop your benefits etc. It's just a case of working with your Trustee to see what they are going to do with your Trust Deed. Once you know this you can then move forward with a plan and we will be happy to help you with advice and guidance along the way.

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 mrsk
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Thank you so much for all your help - I am feeling like I can breathe a little with the information you have all given me today. I went online and valued my car and it's at a rough estimate of £2195 so I think it would be safe to say that they won't want to take that as an asset.

I will do as you have all suggested and get my Income and Expenses form to them as soon as possible and then see where we are at.

I can not thank you all enough for your help x


   
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Mark McFadyen
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No problem, always glad to help.

Looking at the information, sequestration certainly seems to be the best option as there is little point struggling to meet ongoing contributions if you have no income.

Hopefully the trustee will review the information and quickly bring it to a close.

Mark

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